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Dokken
« on: November 20, 2015, 12:55:32 PM »
Dokken was another of those bands that shot to the top and had major success in the 80's but couldn't keep the core lineup together for more than a seven year recording and touring span before fragmenting and never being able to regain the same chemistry and spark again. But from 83 to 89 they made the best of it, The band was all over the radio and MTV in the 80's and on the covers and featured in all the metal and rock magazines.

Don Dokken began putting together what would be the first real Dokken lineup in 1980 and it featured Juan Croucier (Ratt) for those early years when the band first secured a record deal. Their debut album Breaking The Chains was released in 1981 and the band did an opening tour with Blue Oyster Cult, but was almost dropped by their record label due to the lack of success of Breaking The Chains. Juan Croucier left the band in 83 to join Ratt, and Jeff Pilson replaced him completing their classic lineup. Breaking The Chains gave a hint at what was to come as it was a solid record with some good songs, just a little unpolished and took a while to catch on. The Tooth and Nail record was released in 1984 and contained several hits and took off right away the first of three straight platinum records along with 1985's Under Lock and Key and 1987's Back for the Attack. The Monster's of Rock tour followed Back for the Attack and the live album Beast from the East in 1988, Shortly after tensions between Don and George Lynch would lead to their breakup in 1989.

They would reunite in 1994, obviously not a good time for an 80's hair band to try to make a comeback, and released Dysfunctional which is an album that I like very much and thought was a great return, but it only sold modestly and largely went unheard other than by fans of the band and the 80's crowd. The tour that followed saw the tensions rising with Don and George once again and them being dropped by their record label due to the issues but the acoustic live One Live Night was released in 1996 on a different label (CMC) which is very good. The next album Shadow Life was released in 1997 and would be last of the classic lineups releases and it sold poorly and did not go over well. lynch then split in 97 replaced by Reb Beach and by 2001 Pilson left as well after recording the Erase The Slate (99) and Live From The Sun (2000) albums, neither of which did much to speak of sales wise. Since 2001 it's been pretty consistently Don and Mick Brown and a who's who of different complimenting band members as Don's vocal abilities have worsened for wear through those years, to the point I can no longer bother to go see them perform due to that factor. Reunion talk has persisted for years but with the state of Don's vocals , I actually hope it never happens, as I would not want the band to embarrass themselves and their legacy. They have released four albums since 1992, nothing to even remotely compare to their original work.

Some great songs in their earlier catalog to be had though for sure.

It's not love (cool mtv vid)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCn80HADpto
Alone Again (mtv vid) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8rCLwNwf8I
Dream Warriors (another cool cheesy mtv vid  ;D) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDveKxl7Ohs
Kiss of Death (studio) Killer song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrvtBYzGQYU&list=PLmAAsGzvDt5ZBk5Sd7YmoBemeZbeUzjXr
American Bandstand 85: Cool stuff:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN643vttEdo
From the beginning (GREAT ELP cover) Live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0XZhjBj5zs

what a voice he once had, one of the best back in the day. 
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Re: Dokken
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2015, 02:25:42 AM »
The four classic Dokken albums in the  80s are the definition of hair metal for me.  And Beast from the East is one of the best hair metal live albums ever!!

Shadowlife is one of the worst albums I've ever heard though; not sure what kind of sound they wanted with that one.

Their recent albums have been pretty solid though

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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2016, 04:06:55 PM »
If this ever does come to fruition, I hope Don gets his vocal talents back up to some degree of better. I'm sure Pilson can help it sound a lot better on the harmony's and maybe help with some of the high notes. But as he discusses in this article, they would want it to sound good and be top notch, vocally I don't think that is possible at present. But it would be great to see the main lineup give it one more go around, and I'd hope for a new album, but that might be a stretch with Pilson's touring commitments with Foreigner. However Mick Jones hasn't exactly been in the best of health for the past couple years and has in fact missed some shows where they have had to have a replacement fill in, leaving the band with no classic lineup or original members. If Mick were unable to tour there's no way in hell they could continue to tour with NO ONE from the classic or original lineup...Could they? So maybe it won't be long before Pilson has plenty of time to devote to a Dokken reunion.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/dokken-is-working-really-hard-to-reunite-classic-lineup-for-tour-says-jeff-pilson/
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Re: Dokken
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2016, 09:26:26 PM »
I like Dokken although what they've become over the last decade is simply embarrassing. I cringe seeing Don onstage nowadays ( :-[).

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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2016, 10:49:09 PM »
Well, here's the moment we've all been waiting for...probably ten years too late, but never the less Dokken classic lineup reunion. How long it will last is anybody's guess. My guess is not beyond the Japan shows, so enjoy it Japan  :D

Don better get himself in Axl Rose mindset and tighten things up a bit, I figure Pilson will handle more than his share of notes and vocals on these shows to help better the situation, but ultimately Don needs to up his game for this from what I've witnessed in recent years. If they can make this sound decent, it's worth seeing (as long as they don't charge Fleetwood Mac & Eagles like prices).

 
http://teamrock.com/news/2016-05-23/classic-dokken-lineup-to-reunite-for-live-shows
   
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2016, 10:04:16 PM »
Hopefully a DVD will come out of that mini tour with that lineup. Wonder how long they'll be nice before the shit hits the fan.......

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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2016, 12:26:25 PM »
The reunion was officially announced on the Classic Metal Show over the weekend and Don Dokken said they'll record a DVD if everything works out and if they sound good enough. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPnJFaJpbAs

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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2016, 10:33:40 PM »
They have also said there is no intention whatsoever to expand on those Japan show dates. It was a complete big money grab for this to happen as someone actually met the outrageous cash demands that Don had mentioned for a reunion. I don't blame them one bit to take a big payday if someone is willing to pay for it. To capitalize on that further I'm quite sure they will record and release a show of this, despite if it is a quality show or not. These guys are professional musicians though, I'm sure they will make sure it sounds at least passible, not to embarrass them selves. Pilson is a very good singer as well, I'm sure he will do some heavy carrying of Don in many spots. 


http://teamrock.com/news/2016-06-27/dokken-reunion-japan-no-us-or-europe

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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2016, 04:00:10 PM »
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Re: Dokken
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2016, 12:19:21 AM »
So it's a quick payday, It's Japan and a one off in South Dakota. And hopefully  a dvd, so the rest of us can see it. I'm sure it will also find it's way to you tube. Here is Don's take on the whole thing and why it will not be expanded beyond those shows, and some of the details.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/dokken-leader-on-classic-lineup-reunion-money-is-not-an-issue/
 
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2016, 05:31:30 PM »
Man, unless they are gonna play acoustic shows, I don't see how this is going to work out very well. The band is gonna replicate the songs great ,but the vocals are going to be typical of what you see from the current Dokken lineup, which is to say, a struggle. a struggle that I think Pilson is only going to be able to rescue so much. Unfortunately. I hope I'm wrong. I'm a Don Dokken fan but I've seen him live in recent years and it is sometimes painful. Anybody who I can sing along with and not sound that out of place has lost quite a bit of range LOL   

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/reunited-dokken-first-rehearsal-footage-posted-online/
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2016, 10:13:41 PM »
Not bad for what it is. A chance to see the original lineup. But very low energy especially Don, and low vocal range, helped out a lot by Jeff from what I hear. It's kinda like at this point, why bother...Oh yeah $$$$$$ I forgot.

I'm sure, I suppose I'd still be one of the fools that would spend the money to buy the dvd though  8)

I'll give it a few more listens I just quickly browsed through it. Cool photo gallery at the bottom.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/reunited-dokken-performs-in-sioux-falls-south-dakota-video-footage-photos/
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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2016, 02:01:22 PM »
It is exactly what I was expecting, the screams and upper register are completely gone. it is like watching Geoff Tate these days, it is mostly talk singing or doing everything in a slow lower key. The band sounded good though, and liked the set list. I'd like to hear how he did When heaven comes down and In my dreams, but based on that version of Dream Warriors I doubt he went for any of the highs.   

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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2016, 09:06:03 PM »
Here is fan filmed video of the entire first show in South Dakota.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/dokken-fan-filmed-video-footage-of-entire-first-reunion-concert/
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